In this episode of The Rich Roll Podcast, NYT investigative reporter & ‘The Chaos Machine’ author Max Fisher discuss how social media is eroding our minds, driving polarization, and radically changing the way we think. To read more and peruse the full show notes, go here👉🏾http://bit.ly/richroll703
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00:00:00 – Intro
00:01:43 – How did Max get pulled into writing “The Chaos Machine”
00:05:09 – Polarization
00:08:15 – Jacob’ the whistleblower / Impossible task of moderating FB
00:11:27 – The Problem
00:17:31 – What drives social media? Financial Model / Venture Capital
00:21:26 – The philosophy of Silicon Valley
00:26:18 – The Persuasion Lab / Chasing the Dragon
00:32:26 – How does social media rewire our behavior?
00:38:11 – Wall Street
00:38:50 – Tay – Microsoft AI run Twitter account gets radicalized
00:40:46 – How algorithms can radicalize us / GamerGate
00:47:11 – The evolution of radicalization since GamerGate
00:49:51 – What are the underlying social ills behind all this?
00:53:09 – Changing your media diet habits
00:55:44 – Dealing with misinformation
00:59:24 – Ad break – The Plantpower Meal Planner
01:01:05 – Super Posters / outrage sets Social Media norms
01:07:07 – How Anti-Vaxxers grew out of mom FB groups
01:09:05 – Anti-immigration story in Germany
01:12:22 – Qanon
01:16:34 – Most shocking thing Max learned writing the book
01:18:30 – Turn off the incentives on social media
01:25:52 – What are the parameters of free speech on social media?
01:33:09 – Social regulation
01:41:25 – Cecil the lion
01:44:57 – How to dial back the outrage? Gov’t regulation?
01:51:09 – How FB meddles with other countries / Myanmar
01:53:41 – Amazon Fresh / Surveillance
01:55:26 – Breaking up Big Tech
01:58:40 – Where is it all going?
02:06:12 – YouTube’s destructive influence
02:11:06 – Advice for navigating social media
02:18:26 – Closing remarks
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